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  • "Red Flag" laws: First Gun Confiscation Killing Reported in Maryland

    This is an absolute outrage. These "Red Flag" laws are FLAGRANTLY UNCONSTITUTIONAL - yet even the supposed Republicans in Congress DON'T CARE.

    The scary thing is that if your state has such a law - and 13 states currently DO have such laws - The Police can show up at your door to confiscate your firearms with ABSOLUTELY NO DUE PROCESS - and if you refuse to play along, THEY WILL KILL YOU IN YOUR OWN HOME and your muderd will be viewed as being justified by the police department, courts and your state legislature.

    That is what we call POLICE STATE TACTICS. It is what happens in places like North Korea and Communist China - AND NOW IT IS HAPPENING IN AMERICA.

    The thirteen states - that would be
    25% of the U.S. states - that currently have some version of these "Red Flag" laws are:
    Florida
    Vermont
    Maryland
    Rhode Island
    New Jersey
    Delaware
    Massachusetts
    Illinois
    California
    Washington
    Oregon
    Indiana
    Connecticut


    Link: https://conservative-daily.com/2018/...phGc5ID9ecBMt4


    Breaking: First Gun Confiscation Killing Reported in Maryland


    By Max McGuire 11/06/2018



    This is absolutely tragic. Police officers in Anne Arundel County, Maryland arrived at a man’'s home to confiscate his guns under the state’s Red Flag law. When he answered the door holding a gun, a fight ensued and they shot him dead.

    For months, we have been warning you about the so-called “red flag” bills that are being passed in states around the country. These laws allow family members, friends, and even complete strangers to turn gun owners into police to have their firearms confiscated. It is then up to the gun owner to prove that he or she deserves the right to keep and bear arms. It completely turns the justice system on its head. Under these laws, gun owners are presumed guilty until proven innocent.

    On Monday morning, police officers in Anne Arundel County, Maryland showed up confiscate 60-year-old Gary J Willis’ guns. A family member had called police and asked them to suspend Gary Willis’ gun rights, and the local police department was more than happy to oblige.

    When the pounding on the door began at 5:17 am, Gary showed up to his door holding a firearm. When he saw it was police, he put the gun down to talk to them. But then, the officers informed him they were there to confiscate all of his weapons.

    Imagine how you would feel. You wake up out of a sound sleep to pounding on your door. You grab a gun in case it is a criminal, but it turns out that the police are there to confiscate your guns without even accusing you of committing a crime…

    Gary Willis refused to comply with the confiscation order. That is when the fight broke out. During the struggle, one of the weapons discharged. Police, fearing for their lives, opened fire on Gary Willis, killing the 60-year-old man in his own home.

    Gary Willis was not charged or even accused of committing a crime. All of this happened because one extended family member told police she was worried that he was dangerous. No evidence, no proof… just one person’s word. And now, an innocent man is dead.

    This is the future if Paul Ryan and the establishment Republicans get their way. They are working with Democrats on a nationwide “red flag” bill authorize these kinds of gun confiscations across the country.


    And once the midterm elections are over, they are promising to ram it through!


    Do not let them do this! Send your ur.gent and instant letter to Congress right now and force them to kill this nationwide gun confiscation bill before it’s too late!

    Gary Willis lived in the home with other family members, including his niece Michele Willis. She told reporters that she had no idea why this happened. “I’m just dumbfounded right now. My uncle wouldn'’t hurt anybody.”

    The full report hasn’t been released yet, but we know that this man was not being charged with a crime and was not being involuntarily institutionalized. Police showed up to his home at 5 o’clock in the morning to confiscate his guns based on nothing but hearsay. One of his extended family members decided to turn him in to police. Gary’s niece said the red flag order stemmed from a family argument. It was just “family being family,” in her words.

    Maryland’s red flag law went into effect on October 1. In just over a month, 114 people have had their guns confiscated without any due process and now one person is dead.

    Today, 13 states have enacted these red flag laws. Everywhere it is implemented, it is being abused. Democrats are demanding that the GOP help spread this program nationwide. We now live in a country where police can show up at your door with a gun confiscation order based on nothing but hearsay and if you refuse to give up your God-given right to keep and bear arms, they can shoot you dead… And the GOP thinks this is okay.

    Months ago, the GOP admitted what they were planning. One conservative Congressman — Florida Rep. Francis Rooney — went on record and admitted that “"some freedoms are going to have to be given up."”

    When we hear this gun control rhetoric, it is so easy to assume that they’re not talking about us. But now, there’s a 60-year-old man dead in his own home, not because he committed a crime. His only crime is that he believed the Founders when they promised that the “right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.”

    Regardless of today’s election outcome, the GOP is moving on gun control in the next week or two. Reps. Fred Upton (R-MI) and Debbie Dingell (D-MI) have also introduced the bill (HR 5717) in the House. Senator Marco Rubio (R-FL) is working on a Senate version of the House’s confiscation bill.

    We’re out of time. We need to stop this gun control push in its tracks before it’s too late!

    Stop the establishment’s gun control surrender! Send your ur.gent and instant letter to Congress right now and force them to kill this nationwide gun confiscation bill before it’s too late!

    The amazing thing is that gun control activists actually see what happened in Maryland as a victory. Gary Willis never got his day in court. He was never given a chance to defend himself or confront his accuser. He was never charged with a crime and owned his guns legally.

    Police showed up at his door early in the morning because one of his family members told police he could pose a “danger to himself or others.” No evidence, no proof… just the family member’s opinion.

    But now he’s dead because he stood in the way of the Left’s gun confiscation push. The whole purpose of the 2nd Amendment is to give law-abiding Americans the power to defend themselves. But under this law, preparing for self-defense even justifies [FORCED] disarmament….

    This is the “compromise” that the GOP has in mind over gun control. Usually, compromise implies both sides giving ground in order to get something they want. But when it comes to gun control, “compromise” means they are only going to chip away at some of your rights. Instead of giving into the Left’s demands for massive gun bans or gun owner registries, Ryan and the GOP want to “compromise” by opening the door for radical, unsubstantiated gun confiscations like what happened in Maryland.

    The Democrats believe they have the votes to pass this radical plan. All they need is for Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell to schedule the votes.

    The Founders knew a day would come when brave patriots would need to stand up for their rights. This is one of those moments.

    “Shall not be infringed” means nothing if you aren'’t willing to fight for it!

    You MUST stop them! Send your ur.gent and instant letter to Congress right now and force them to kill this nationwide gun confiscation bill before it’s too late!

    Fight back,
    Joe Otto
    Conservative Daily

    "There are only two things we should fight for. One is the defense of our homes and the other is the Bill of Rights." - Maj. Gen. Smedley Butler, USMC

    "The Constitution of most of our states (and of the United States) assert that all power is inherent in the people; that they may exercise it by themselves; that it is their right and duty to be at all times armed." - Thomas Jefferson

  • #2
    Another article on the first murder victim of the "Just Following Orders" thugs with badges.

    Link:
    https://www.thenewamerican.com/usnew...fiscation-raid


    Law-abiding gun Owner Killed During Red Flag Confiscation Raid

    Written by Bob Adelmann

    06 November 2018



    Gary Willis, a resident of Ferndale, Maryland, was awakened Monday morning at 5:17 a.m. when two officers from Anne Arundel County knocked on his door. A law-abiding gun owner, Willis answered the door “with a gun in his hand,” according to a police department spokesman. They were there to serve him with an “extreme risk protective order” and remove his legally owned firearms.

    According to the spokesman, Willis put his firearm down to read the ERPO but then, apparently recognizing that it wasn’t a legal search warrant issued by a judge in accordance with protections guaranteed to him by the Fourth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, but instead was issued by a local judge under Maryland’s newly minted “red flag” law,
    he retrieved his firearm.

    The spokesman said that Willis “became irate.” In the melee that followed, one of the firearms carried either by one of the officers or by Willis went off. One of the officers then pulled his own sidearm and shot Willis dead.

    Family members told Capital Gazette reporters that a distant relative had requested the ERPO the day before, due to an “incident” that occurred at his residence. The details of the “incident” remain unclear at this writing, but the backpedaling by the police chief began almost immediately.

    Said Anne Arundel County police chief Timothy Altomare:
    If you look at this morning’s outcome, it’s tough for us to say, “Well, what did we prevent?” Because we don’t know what we prevented or could’ve prevented.
    What would have happened if we didn’t go there at 5 am?

    Probably nothing. Because during his many years as a resident at his home in Ferndale nothing untoward happened. His niece, Michele Willis, said “I’m just dumfounded right now. My uncle wouldn’t hurt anybody.”


    Chief Altomare announced that since the law became effective on October 1, there have been 19 ERPOs issued in his county, his officers have served nine of them and have seized “around 33 guns” in the process. So successful have the unconstitutional raids been in Anne Arundel County that the department is building a new storage facility specifically to accommodate all the firearms they are expected to confiscate under the new law.


    Gun grabbers are delighted with the new laws springing up around the country. Jonas Oransky, deputy director of Everytown for Gun Safety, calls the unconstitutional gun-confiscation laws a “new frontier” in his group’s attack on private ownership of firearms: “We think of this is a new frontier. We don’t have a perfect system in this country, and we can’t stop every act of gun violence. [But these “red flag” laws are] a way for states to take some care and be somewhat nimble when there is a dangerous case.”

    The point of the Fourth Amendment (“The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause.”) is to protect private citizens such as Gary Willis from living in a police state where police can be “nimble” and arrive unannounced at 5:17 in the morning with a piece of paper that says they have the right to take his guns.


    The point of the “red flag” laws, however, is to do an end run around that Fourth Amendment. As The New American noted back in March when “red flag” laws started popping up in a number of states in response to the Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School shooting in Parkland, Florida: “The ‘red flag’ provisions do not allow the person charged to defend himself or even to know who his accuser might be. Further, he must prove his innocence in order to get his confiscated firearms returned to him. He is “guilty until he proves himself innocent.”

    ERPOs lower the standard in the Fourth Amendment — probable cause — to “reasonable cause.” They allow judges to act quickly (in Gary Willis’ case, overnight) before the victim gets wind of what’s coming and can secure legal counsel to defend himself or make other arrangements to protect himself and his property.

    Willis isn’t the first citizen to be caught in the “red flag” web, just the first one to die as a result. In Seattle, an agency called the “Crisis Response Squad” has already pre-identified pre-criminals before they committed atrocities and seized their legally owned firearms. On March 1, one of those identified as a “precriminal” didn’t comply with the court order and made the headlines when police entered his residence and forced him to relinquish his weapons.

    KOMONews.com covered the incident, informing its readers that
    the 31-year-old man hadn’t committed a crime but was guilty of “escalating behavior," whatever that means. Some workers at a local restaurant, according to KOMO News, said the defendant “harassed” them while he was carrying a holstered firearm (which is legal there).

    KOMO News added that this man’s
    “precrimes” included a history of police seizing a shotgun from him “in a different incident.” After entering his residence with the so-called warrant (based not on “probable cause” but on the much lower standard of “reasonable cause”), the police not only retrieved a .25-caliber handgun but then entered the residence of one of the man’s family members, where they hoped to find some other firearms belonging to him.

    A teenage girl from Pembroke Pines, Florida, was brought to police headquarters and subjected to more than two hours of questioning about her posts on social media. No attorney was present. None was needed. After all, the right to “lawyer up” isn’t allowed under the state's new law. Said Pembroke Pines Police Captain Al Xiques, his “police department will pursue those Risk Protection Orders in accordance with the new law when we determine that it is necessary in order to protect the public’s safety.”

    The girl’s attorney is suing to have the new Florida law overturned.

    And then there’s the case of Broward County, Florida, Sheriff’s bailiff Franklin Joseph Pinter, age 60, who allegedly made some verbal threats toward other bailiffs and, again allegedly, was seen on the fifth floor of the county courthouse leaning over the railing and pretending to hold a long gun and shooting at people below.

    This was all that the judge needed. On Friday, May 25, the sheriff’s office sought the ERPO, which the judge granted that same afternoon. No trial. No defense. No witnesses. No one representing Pinter. In fact, Pinter had no way of knowing about the court order to seize his 67 firearms until deputies showed up at his door.

    Where will this end? Repeal isn’t likely, as states, encouraged happily by gun grabbers, are pushing for more “red flag” laws, not fewer. Instead, it will end when a court grows a backbone and declares them unconstitutional. Until then,
    every citizen legally possessing a firearm in “red flag” states is in danger of having a relative, an acquaintance with whom he has had a disagreement, a disaffected or offended neighbor or co-worker, a mental health “professional,” or as is sometimes the case, the police themselves, petition a judge and obtain an ERPO that enables local police to remove the offending weapons from his possession, by force if necessary.

    Resistance, as Gary Willis found out, is not only futile, but fatal.
    Long ago, abolitionist and American statesman Frederick Douglass made a telling observation:
    "...Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and it never will... Find out just what people will submit to, and you have found the exact amount of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them; these will continue until they are resisted with either words or blows, or with both.
    The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of those whom they oppress.”
    "There are only two things we should fight for. One is the defense of our homes and the other is the Bill of Rights." - Maj. Gen. Smedley Butler, USMC

    "The Constitution of most of our states (and of the United States) assert that all power is inherent in the people; that they may exercise it by themselves; that it is their right and duty to be at all times armed." - Thomas Jefferson

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